Holy Spirit life Vs Natural life - can you see the contrast?

Any who have gazed or been heartened by the warmth of peace that flows via Holy Spirit life will no doubt sit amazed at spirit life’s dichotomy to normal life.

Spirit life is usually the opposite to our default, it is the enigma to our control, it is the frustration fear and terror to any way of life we have known. Natural persons crave it, the rich play with it, the poor reflect on it. All touch it some become it.

Holy Spirit life is the most peaceful and beautiful state of being that any can glimpse into or glance off. In glancing off so many strive to add it to the comfort or control of what they have attained. Perhaps to bring understanding to this we see verse and passages in the bible that are beyond our capability to grasp and one such passage is in the beginning of John 12.

[Jhn 12:1-5 NIV] 1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. 2 Here a dinner was given in Jesus' honor. Martha served, while Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. 3 Then Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. 4 But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, 5 "Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages."

A few parts to note.

1. Worth a year’s wages
2. Poured on feet.
3. Wiped with hair.

We can see a beautiful picture of a prelude to Holy Spirit life and do well to note Mary poured out perfume worth a year’s wages. So let’s say it this way. Mary poured a bottle of rare perfume worth a minimum of $60k in our world on the feet of a man. Then to add natural stupidity to it she wiped His feet with her hair. Feet that walked dusty street. The religious want to get all fluffy about this passage and say it’s because it was Jesus. Realistically what a beautiful demonstration of Holy Spirit life a life that is no respecter of persons.

In spirit life there is no value, there is no concern for today or tomorrow there is only peace and that peace is not derived from financial security (if there is such a thing). But we can see the two paths of life so simply in this passage. Judas who took the natural way saw the needs, saw the value and failed to see the life. To him as to all natural or religious they see money and value of the temporal.  

Spirit does not see or has no value in anything of this world. It lives a quality of life not comprehendible to a Judas. To Judas he was lost in the temporal. Mary was living the eternal of her gift and what flowed from her spirit. An interesting side note. Judas, like most today strived for things. He was the one who kept the money for Jesus and ultimately sold Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. Yet here he was envious of the waste. Yet a simple humble spirited woman, one the world would call simple or silly had a crazy expensive perfume and she tipped it out. Amazing to me! And a beautiful expression of spirit life.

Yes she was appreciative of Jesus but if you want to take that line Mary would have been better selling the perfume with Judas and ministering to the needs of Jesus financially. After all Jesus was homeless and needed woman to take care of Him. Jesus lived beyond the chains of the temporal and beckons for us to have the same pleasure.

Funny thing I see myself in Judas more than Mary. My brain would fight my spirit on this one. I would like to waste $60k on the feet of someone I love. But realistically my natural would be to sell the fragrance and take them to lunch. Maybe pay a few of their bills, you know something that would make me feel like I was a good guy in Spirit. I would wrestle with the humbleness to clean feet with my hair. Yes I could possibly talk my religious old part into this scenario but when I have to think about it all it would reveal is I don’t get it. In reality Mary was lost in something I see and are aware of, it is life, true spirit abandoned life. A romantic flow of energy and creativity that is never ending, limitless, full of ingenuity, originality and passion. The purity of who a Spirit person is can be no less that amazing. No care for anything, not by conscious choice but by abandonment to their co-joined gift.  

A conversation - The antithesis of religion

Not really anything to admire here. I just lived life and many times felt like I was surviving not living. The path has been a real mirror to reveal many things all of which ultimately come back to intimacy. Or a pseudo intimacy I had created and placed God in. He was living in my sphere of understanding and comfort of an infinite God. Restricted by the religious knowledge and doctrines I had spent a lifetime amassing.

Something deep in me was calling. It had chained me, had I really had a choice my natural part would not have come. But my spirit man was calling for intimacy an intimacy my brain thought it already had.

An intimacy I now know was lost inside religion. It was an intimacy dependent on actions and others. I was lost and never knew it. I was always marked to never truly fit in religion or be accepted. This troubled me until this path revealed the intimacy of an eternal God romancing me. The romance was and remains so powerful it drew me to intimacy when my arrogant pride thought I already had it.

The religious understanding and systems I was part of were in fact creations to steal intimacy and the people inside them as wonderful as they are had a pseudo intimacy in many ways. Ultimately we were all living with orphan hearts and like orphans in an orphanage all came up with programs and actions to get attention from the father. Ultimately we all self-preserve and can never lay down our lives unto death.

I always admired your spirit calling out from within you for intimacy. Sure the world superimposes what that should look like. But you know more than any it is a deep “knowing” that causes you to never fit. You are a beautiful and amazing misfit sealed for life. A flower existing in a perverse system of man but trapped in not knowing how to truly connect and let go. (I am just writing whatever comes out so I trust it is life to your spirit). God is drawing you to your first love and in understanding romance we can only go back to your early days when Christ revealed himself to you in amazing ways.

I know nothing of these days in your life but I can type what comes out. Days of spontaneity where sleep was not a need as you were driven by the inner man bursting forth in a new found love of a creator. Habits fell away without effort or thought. Likely your language changed and nobody was even teaching you such. Like all of us we become like drunk men oblivious to life oblivious to needs and wants. This new “romance” is life itself and no longer can we be what we were. This my friend is romance it is not limited to love as love can be taught or earned. What you and I got with Jesus was never earned it was unjustified and troubling as to why it landed in our lives.

It was and still is an eternal Godhead romancing us with His love. Like young ones with orphan hearts we try to deserve the intimacy and in so doing it seems almost lost at times. But it isn’t, we go to church to try and create a culture of attaining more of it. Ahh we missed it as we are the church and the bride of Christ consists in the worshipers in spirit and truth.

We now let our head start to teach romance but in reality it can never be taught. We get flashes of the romance we came to Christ with, but fail to see these flashes of spirit romance invalidate everything we are. In spirit life we are undone we are incapacitated and immobilized. We can’t even feed ourselves and if we can we have left our first love. This is us in America, in the middle or immense prosperity we lived nothing and still do. But for some crazy romantic reason Gods love creates whats needed. I can’t help it or change it I can only enjoy it. This is hard to do as what once was my orphan heart wants to earn it. Holy Spirit manifestations do not validate us or our actions and the problem with churchianity is we validate our music, preaching, systems with these manifestations that are infect there to incapacitate everything we are. But our humanistic orphan hearts use these manifestations to build ministries and validate how right our doctrines are.

When nobody wants to listen to our doctrines we finally be still and in the stillness our first love ignites. This is me; nobody wanted to hear my voice here I was a burden a freak a misfit. Orphan hearts can never have intimacy with orphan hearts. They will only use each other in the most polite of ways in mutual agreement to attain. God stripped anyone from around me who cared. I tried to stay in the systems but they vomited me out. God reached into the vomit and found me. He seemed to wipe the vomit away and never minded the smell. He just encompassed me with a love I had never experienced. It troubled me and still does. As in the vomit of man’s efforts to please. He found and saw a gem, a jewel a thing of beauty. It was me!! And my friend it is you. Be different the romance is alive in you I can see it in the simple words you typed. The transparency you had in your email is a spirit buried in vomit that God is reaching his hand into to love.

Poem

One day today my freedom at last

One day today life is like glass. I see who I was and no words can describe. No longer a man I am left to abide.

To this world I am futile to this world I despair. But in heavens accord am seated right there.

Right there is my life seated in Him. No more to exist no more to begin.

Come waste some time with me I'll be you and you be me.

Come waste some time with me.
Dancing together in harmony
I'll be you, you be me


Dancing as romance,
lost in life,
See no time we live the eternal



Gifted eternal community as yet to be discovered. Yes it is possible and increasingly probable that community of gifted and talented people come together to just BE (as a state) life.
Picture such a community where artists are together with business people who are together with builders with chefs and musicians etc.
I can see a new type of gallery. Not one that is a display but rather an experience a provision of spiritually romantic expression. I can see that not one part of the experience aimed towards an outcome or a motivation.
Yes it would take a unique expression of the brave at heart. Ones who can see past the temporal as they seek to discover the eternal. Such a gallery of life would have gifted chefs expressing their creation in unison with musicians who spontaneously express creative life through their resonance.
The artwork would have artists creating to express in a pure form of life. In this community they are not defiled by disappointments and fear. This community is a safe place to BE (as a state) true to who we are. In this expression life is revealed and discovered in ways never expressed before. There is no motive for such it is just a journey that is eternal in its origin and as we flow with the path of the river of life there is healing.
It is within the gifts in all of us we see a link to an eternal God. Beyond the gift we see the decomposition of life into mortality and in the mortal we subject life to limits and death. Imagine a spiritual place where mortality is swallowed up by life and in this expression of an eternal God we discover true limitless identity. An identity that can only be discovered by romantic surrender in a spiritual way. Romance in and of itself is limitless and it is only in subjection to mortality romance dies. In spiritual regeneration of our inner being, romance comes alive and the eternal flow of such bursts forth out of our core. Now we can express, now we can create, now we are free to discover limitless.

So in this gallery of life such a community draws in romantics stupefied by love of pure unadulterated life. As such a one savors the moment they can only live the moment and in living a lifetime of moments they surrender their identity to a spiritual movement of life. In surrender of identity they become complete identity and instead of the struggle of individuality they are now unified with the creator and His created.
As I look beyond what religion has defiled by creating manageable knowledge. I see a Godhead that is a complete expression of life. It is not understandable to ones head as a gifted person understand the talent cannot be explained. It is an invitation to surrender to a movement called the Godhead that said "let us make man in our image." We are all being propelled into life itself and it is only as we get sucked into mortal limited life we lose life itself. Wretched man that I am who can deliver me from this body of death. I thank God it is no longer I that lives but spiritual koinonia.

What religion of every race and greed has bastardized by knowledge. Spiritual koinonia lives as romance with a Godhead of life that brings intimacy, unity, unison, caring, giving, freedom, intercourse etc.

Writing on heaven and a new earth spoken of in Revelation 21 in the bible

The anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of us as the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. Romans 8:19

To be clear creation waits eagerly for the revealing of us as the sons of God. A revealing of the predestined to be sons. It is in amazement we look at creation and understand it is indeed subjected to futility. Creation is decaying and as man was given dominion of the earth in Genesis, we understand creation was subjected to futility. Now we have man playing God of his own world and as time unfolds creation groans longing to be set free from its slavery. A slavery to natural men in self and expounding the works of self. Creation is the victim of mankind’s lust and as man lusts for dominion he was given freely he destroys what surrounds him. Mankind destroys to create, God creates from nothing and is melodic harmony.

The corruption this passage talks about is a de-composing of creation and as it decomposes  we see a perpetual cycle of destruction. As man creates within creation he destroys. Carnality always destroys to create, there is never a resonating within harmony of life. Mankind in and of himself is destructive and cannot exist any other way. As creation has been subjected to corruption it is important to note the verse says “in hope” it is in hope God subjected creation to futility, it was in hope God wanted to set creation free from de-composing. It certainly seems strange that God subjected the limitless self-perpetuation life of creation to mankind. It is in understanding the very essence of creation we can understand the heart of God.

God desired to make man in the image of the Godhead. Man was needed as a new member of Godly unity and as we have talked about in previous writings man had to have his independent identity and realize its futility before he could enter a Godhead unity. So in relation to this passage God was wanting man to run things his way so that he would ultimately abandon his limited creativity to expand into limitless creation. It is in this abandonment we see creation coming into the glory of the sons of God.

What is that glory and how is it manifest? That glory simply put is man discovering when he abandons self he abides in God and when he abides in God he is unified with a Godhead that creates as harmony and resonates with all creation. It is in our previous writings we can understand this process and the reasoning of God. But ultimately Gods creative life in a spirit unified believer, releases the creative. God wanted to create a new world and in that world he would be one with mankind and mankind would be one with him. He refers to this oneness as His bride and the heart of God is to create a new world with a new world order. A world in which God and man are unified and resonate in harmony. Revelation 21

In talking of this God subjected creation to the futility of man knowing the earth would be destroyed and a new one created with the Godhead and man being part of that Godhead. Together man and God would have a honeymoon and create their dream home. Gods dream home is just being with us and man’s dream home is just being with Him. Imagine a world so attune to the heart of God and man unified that there is no sun. As God will live among man and there will be no darkness no disease, no sickness , no mourning, no fear. God will illuminate this world with the light of who he is and as the sun was a type of God it will go dark and God will never go dark. Revelation 21 again.

Creation is failing but in its failing it is bursting waiting for us as the sons of God to be revealed and as the chrysalis of this temporal world will melt with fervent heat. As it melts natural man will find their hearts failing them of the terrible expectation of things to come. Natural sight orientated mankind trapped in control of the mind and self will be terrified. The terror will come as they cannot see past the temporal they cannot see the eternal and are locked into a prison of self and self-sight and desires. But creation rejoices as we are released into the glory of who we are in koinonia expression ate life. Until now creation groaned but now just like Noah in Hebrews 11 we see his actions condemned the world and our action of abandonment and surrender condemns this world and creates another.

So a natural person would read of such and see fantasy. A spirit person can do nothing but abandon self to the creative of God and allow creation As we allow creation we have no idea how to help that, hinder that, reveal that or influence that. It is a becoming part of the bride it talks of in Revelation 21 and that bride is completely unified in identity as the Godhead is unified. A bride that moves as one, exists as one, and is waiting as one, for the groom to come in love and gather her to Himself. A returning groom who anxiously with longing awaits the bride. He will come and collect his bride as He watches her form spotless and without blemish. She is pure spotless and without blemish as in Sspirit she moves as one is unified as one and has no spiritual difference to the others that make her up. She abandoned doctrine based in natural systems of knowledge and embraced spirit doctrines of life. This bride is a creation of beauty herself created by a Godhead bursting for intimacy. A Godhead that began it all by saying let’s make her in “our image”. As the Godhead is unified in incredible incomprehensible majestic beauty. So is His creation of the bride, and the bride is a carbon copy of the Godhead on earth. Identical and inseparable to the Godhead. The bride was made by the Godhead for the godhead. If she can see it in the groom it exists in the bride. The formation of the bride is the completed manifestation of the godhead on earth. If we can see it in God and not see it in us as the bride then we are not in the bride. If we can distinguish flaws in the bride then she is not the bride but a counterfeit creation of man’s religious systems. The bride has no blemish of sin and need not strive to be beautiful she is Godhead on earth. She never speaks wrong even when her words offend. She never dirties herself even when others jealously can’t understand. The bride is not limited to natural comprehension as she is a spiritual creation with a spiritual body. The temporal falls away as the mortal is swallowed up by life, CREATIVE HOLY LIFE devoid of action or understanding. As it is in all, can see all and does all. The bride consists of the true church it worships in Sspirit and truth. Not as subjected to a natural creation but rather released to a new world order and as we hear the name of the new world it is inexpressible in a natural verbal way. Perhaps for the first time 2 Corinthians 2:4 comes alive. Inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak.

A spiritual world order where Godhead is marrying His own kind. He is marrying a bride without the blemishes of natural doctrines. Without the blemishes of sinful deeds, without trying to be beautiful. A bride that is comfortable with her identity and is not needing to use and abuse her groom to validate herself. A bride with a wonderful self-image that has no needs that need to be taken care of and is not demanding attention or desires be met. This bride is confident in koinonia life and has abandoned the creation of this world in anticipation of the next. Together she will create with her groom that of the next world.

Verses that caused this writing to exist.

[1Co 15:44 NASB] 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

Revelation 21  The New Heaven and Earth